[Emma Murphy]

Hi,

Well I’ll be the first to ask a classification question….

Industrial – attachment D

What is the difference or people’s interpretation of 4 and 24?

And do retail service stations fit into 24.

Being in a regional area, my interpretation of ‘bulk’ and metropolitan’s interpretation of ‘bulk’ could vary.

[Ken Bakon]

Hi Emma,
Industrial – as they do store gas and/or fuel as well as sell those products.
Also, many have workshops attached (which are specifically defined in 1(a) as being industrial).

Ken

[Neil Charge]

I have just received some answers from Treasury to questions I asked regarding the ESPL –

(A) The manual talks about Bulk fuel storage e.g. a fuel depot or oil terminal but does not specify a service station or garage. Are petrol stations to be classified commercial or Industrial?

ANSWER from Treasury-Petrol stations should be classified as commercial

(B) Is a petrol station that sells only petrol with a small shop to be classified the same as a garage with mechanics and vehicle repair workshops?

ANSWER from Treasury- This would also be classified as commercial, and we anticipate the regulations to reflect this.

The ESPL category for a Retirement Village?

ANSWER from Treasury – Retirement villages (whether operated by a commercial entity or PBI/church/charity) should be classified as Residential for the purposes of ESPL. We anticipate this to be discussed in the regulations.

[Ken Bakon]

Thanks Chargie…….so the little owner-operated mechanics workshop (1.a definition) with little of no fuel on site will be paying a higher rate in the $ than large servos run by the multi nationals, with thousands of litres of fuel on site and all their associated hazards attached to that storage……..hmm!

[David Grima]

When are the Regs being released? or did I miss something?

[Ken Bakon]

Dave,
Bit difficult to have regs, when they don’t even have legislation yet!

Ken

[David Grima]

touche – good point Ken.

[Robert Hay]

Hi Everyone
Just a reminder that questions regarding the ESPL can be posted directly on the ESPL Council Portal
The link is http://www.emergencyservicespropertylevy.nsw.gov.au/
Username: council
Password: #emergency
Click on Contact Us and post your question.
Your question will then be sent directly to the support network that has been created to answer your question.
This will then be updated to the ESPL faqs and manuals as not all Councils maybe members of the Revenue Professionals and see the answers posted here.

Robert

[Rod Taber]

I have posted a question on the above link querying definitions in 1.a of industrial – Motor vehicle repair facilities/ workshops/ garage are not true industrial categories. General purpose factory that is used for manufacturing and assembly on a large scale is def Industrial, but the local garage/mechanic/smash repairer are usually only servicing/repairing cars and are not producing any goods on a large industrial scale. They are more commercial/retail operations in nature and should be categorized as such.And would make categorizations of industrial/commercial properties a hell of a lot easier for Councils

[Susan Scott]

I’m GOBSMACKED! seriously???? On page 43 of the latest release Manual, Under ‘Definition of Public Benefit Land’ Item 12 – Retirement Villages operated by a religious organisation or public benevolent institution.

Then Treasury says THIS????

“The ESPL category for a Retirement Village?

ANSWER from Treasury – Retirement villages (whether operated by a commercial entity or PBI/church/charity) should be classified as Residential for the purposes of ESPL. We anticipate this to be discussed in the regulations.”
Gonna have to query this with them!!!

[Susan Scott]

And Treasury response is that they are to categorised as Public Benefit.

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