Possibilty of FESL Re-Raising it's Head

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  • #19181
    Avatar photoJason Symons
    Participant

      So, I’ve had a thought (yes, it does happen occasionally).

      With the recent season and devastation of fires across the state, and in light of a possible royal commission, I have a feeling FESL will come to light again.

      As a result I’ve asked my staff to recommence updating and maintaining individual assessment FESL Classifications and Valuation Numbers/IDs, as we stopped doing this when the Premier announced FESL would be deferred/delayed.

      Have others given any thought to doing the same?

      Cheers

      Jason

      #19185
      Anne Jones
      Participant

        Berrigan Shire

        Hi Jason,
        With the initial introduction of FESL, a new field had been entered into our rate cards for the Emergency Services (we use Practical Plus), and this has been kept up to date as new properties are created and properties are modified.

        Annie Jones
        ARO – Berrigan Shire Council

        #19184
        Suzi Flynn
        Participant

          Sydney City

          Hi Jason,

          I have always thought FESL would come back but it’s just a matter of when. I doubt they will rush something out without appropriate planning. NSW government can’t afford to get it wrong again.

          We aren’t spending time maintaining FESL classifications as they could be defined differently next time around.

          I guess it depends on your system as to whether it’s simple enough to maintain strata PIDs but if it comes back we will likely work on another bulk upload.

          Suzi

          #19183
          Andrew Butcher
          Keymaster

            Hi Jason
            I too had thought the FESL may be back especially with the devastating affect from the current crisis.
            In mid-November I contacted one of the Senior staff representing NSW Treasury from the FESL work group and was advised nothing has been raised with them (and he would know). He said he would be touch immediately should this change.
            Suzi is correct the government will most likely consider a different model based on FESL v1 being deferred.
            Hope this is helpful.

            Regards,
            Andrew

            #19182
            Andrea Dolan
            Participant

              Canterbury-Bankstown

              Hi Jason,

              There seems every likelihood that FESL will come back in some form or another.
              We have been maintaining the classifications but not the Strata PID’s. It’s just become part of our process when creating the new rates accounts.

              Andrea

              #23344
              Darryl Telfer
              Participant

                Central Darling Shire

                Here we go folks.

                NSW to ditch current insurance-funded Emergency Services Levy

                A hell of a lot of work was done on this last round before it was ditched at the 11th hour. Hopefully it will get over the line in a suitable format this time. There will still be plenty of work for Council’s to implement though (assuming it will move from insurance to rates).

                #23345
                Andrew Butcher
                Keymaster

                  Well spotted Darryl, let’s hope we don’t end up with FESL 2.0

                  Here is what I know so far:
                  + Insurance Monitor to ensure insurance companies pass savings onto policy holders
                  + Government to consider CIV for all taxes
                  + Concessions will be available for pensioners
                  + Will only apply to the 73.7% of cost contributions levied on Insurance Premiums – not affect the 11.7% paid by councils
                  + Stakeholder and industry consultation to commence early next (calendar) year
                  + No decision on who will collect levies

                  Will keep this updated as more information comes to light.

                  Regards,
                  Andrew

                  #23954
                  Edwin Athaide
                  Participant

                    Ku-ring-gai

                    Emergency Services Levy Amendment Land Classification Bill 2024
                    The government’s Amendment (Land Classification) Bill 2024passed Parliament last week and will establish a mechanism for the removal of the ESL from both councils and insurance policies. The Bill was passed with one Opposition amendment, which inserts a recommendation that Parliament reimburse councils for the reasonable costs of exercising the land classification functions.
                    https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/bills/Pages/bill-details.aspx?pk=18587
                    Regards
                    Edwin

                    #23959
                    Robert Hay
                    Participant

                      The Hills

                      Hi Everyone

                      Whilst the legislation has been passed it has yet to be assented.

                      Robert

                      #23994
                      Robert Hay
                      Participant

                        The Hills

                        Hi Everyone

                        The Emergency Services Levy Amendment (Land Classification) Act 2024 has been assented on the 20/06/2024.

                        Things are heating up.

                        https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/bills/Pages/bill-details.aspx?pk=18587

                        Robert

                        #23996
                        Trevor Holland
                        Participant

                          Lithgow

                          Hello All

                          Guess the next step will be to wait for the official advice including the guidelines to come out.

                          Can’t do a whole lot until that happens.

                          Let’s hope that they have learnt from FESL Mark 1.0 and this time around it is less chaotic. Only time will tell.

                          Regards
                          Trevor

                          #23998
                          David Grima
                          Participant

                            Wingecarribee

                            BUT how will it work with the change to the valuation cycle? Makes no sense ……….

                            #24019
                            Dallas McConnell
                            Participant

                              Wollongong

                              If im reading it right, it only means that we have to classify each parcel of land.
                              No determination on Council imposing the charge and recouping the money.
                              I think there is a chance we classify the land and Revenue NSW do the collection?

                              #24021
                              Suzi Flynn
                              Participant

                                Sydney City

                                Hi Dallas,
                                Yes I think that’s how it is shaping up, which is why having councils on the different valuation base dates wouldn’t matter. I assume Revenue NSW will use the annual valuations done across the state.

                                #24022
                                Dallas McConnell
                                Participant

                                  Wollongong

                                  Thanks Suzi,

                                  I agree. Hopefully, if it does go this way, this isnt the first step in Revenue NSW running rates. For those that might recall they tried to do some collections in this space a few years ago.

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