[Andrew Butcher]

Hi Simone

Given that I live in your council area I could be bias in my response.

From what I know the issue with Service NSW was that they did not offer alternative payment options for online services, such as BPAY which no longer charge an MSF for credit card payments.

The Reserve Bank rules allow the passing on of an MSF provided your customers (ratepayers) can pay using alternatives that do not attract an MSF, such as cash cheque OTC EFTPOS or by BPAY.

I have always resisted the removal on the basis that council (ratepayers) will incure large MSF fees from DA payments.

Hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Andrew

[Andrew Butcher]

Final submission loaded onto the IPART website today.

Regards,
Andrew

NSW Revenue Professionals submission to IPART – 2024 VG LV pricing information paper

[Andrew Butcher]

Hi Deborah

I agree this is confusing, but appendix B is intended to be a list of government organisations to assist with classifying as GOVT, meaning not all organisations in the list will be GOVT.

Definitely, Essential Energy is not GOVT so the classification could be COMV/COMNV or INDV/INDNV depending on the use of the land. For example, it may be a battery storage facility which would be INDNV.

Hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Andrew

[Andrew Butcher]

Hi Ashley

In regard to your questions please see my responses below.

Q1: You don’t need to worry about charity status with the ESF, if the land meets the criteria as public benefit (appendix D) then it should be classified as PUBLIC. You are 100% correct Offices should be COMNV and the warehouses should be classified industrial or INDNV.

Q2: If the property is owned by a government organisation, they would GOVT. If not government owned, then these properties would be RESNV even if owned by a charity or PBI.

Hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Andrew

[Andrew Butcher]

Please find attached our draft submission to the IPART on the Valuer-General’s pricing proposal for the next six years.

If you have any comments or questions, please contact me directly or post them in this chat.

Submissions close 19 November 2024.

Regards,
Andrew

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[Andrew Butcher]

Hi Karen

Revenue NSW have advised that the VG data file was extracted in the last week of September and supplied to them on 1 October 2024.

Thanks Nick, for your post.

Regards,
Andrew

[Andrew Butcher]

Hi Karen

I know it was early October and think they said it was 1 October 2024. I can find out for you if you need the exact date.

Regards,
Andrew

[Andrew Butcher]

Oh dear, you are quite right. I had misread David’s post.

If the land is under development and rated Residential and will be Residential units (strata) when complete the specified use of DEVRES needs to be added, the classification will be RESV.

Apologies to you both for this error, and thanks Peter for pointing it out.

Regards,
Andrew

[Andrew Butcher]

Hi Dave

I think you will find that the only thing that needs the specified use as DEVRES is land that is categorised Business during the construction phase that will be primarily Residential when the Occupation Certificate is issued.

This requirement is a consequence of the Karimbla case and land that is under development should be classified COMNV but will become RESNV when complete.

You only need to classify land in its current state, so if currently under construction, then the property would be COMNV (if rated Business) then RESNV (if to be rated Residential) with a specified use of DEVRES.

Hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Andrew

[Andrew Butcher]

Hi Cherie

I would look at this based on the zoning or permitted use of the land around them. If just a garage within a residential complex then RESNV, but in the case of storage units (like Kennards) it would definitely be INDNV.

I hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Andrew

[Andrew Butcher]

Hi Cherie

I would apply the INDNV code as the land meets the criteria of being a mechanic workshop as defined in appendix E. Also, to be classified as commercial the manual says ‘If land cannot be classified under one of the other property sectors it is to be classified as Commercial Land.’

I agree that the nature, extent and intensity of use would align more closely with the mechanic/workshop than the sales area.

Hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Andrew

[Andrew Butcher]

Hi Deborah

I am pretty sure you just need to put it writing, maybe first contact them on 3814 0789 or by email at esf@revenue.nsw.gov.au

Regards,
Andrew

[Andrew Butcher]

Hi everyone

In a meeting yesterday with Revenue NSW this issue was raised and I believe an email has been sent to all councils advising that ‘due to delays with the onboarding process Revenue NSW will aim to complete your account creation within 72 hours of receiving a completed ESF onboarding form.’

In addition, the form referred to as the GM letter may be one of two things, 1) the Treasurer has sent a letter to all councils advising of the ESF process (albeit after we have all started), 2) the form that needs to be signed by your GM which includes the bank details for payment – this form should be visible in your ESF Template folder>>ESF council information form.

I hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Andrew

[Andrew Butcher]

Hi Carmel

Unfortunately, there is no scope to grant an exemption, if the land is owned by council, then I assume council is paying the rates and charging the tennis club outgoings in accordance with the lease? If so, then Council could move to a contribution in the lease rather than full recovery of outgoings.

We have done this for some charities that lease from us which is negotiated during the lease. If the council takes this path for one club, then I would recommend constructing a policy around the decision because all lease holders will have a view that they are not making a profit so should also be exempt too.

I hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Andrew

[Andrew Butcher]

No worries, thank you for the advice, will collate and continue to raise with OLG and advocate for change.

All land used for a residential purpose or commercial gain should be rated, it makes no sense that the owner gets a free ride when their tenant uses or has access to all the works, services, activities and facilities funded from land rates.

Regards,
Andrew

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